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Response to Joyce Meyer and Joel Osteen Query


Following our Fri Sept 21st 2012 enewsletter about Word Faith Teachers Caryl received the following....

Q: Caryl...
I disagree with you about Joyce Meyer and Joel Osteen. I've listened to them many times these past few years & have never heard them discuss anything contrary to God's Word. I feel I have a very good spiritual understanding of The Word. And, like everyone else, I am always learning from the Holy Spirit. I only accept something from someone if it lines up with God's Word.
You have criticized these two ministers, but you have done so in a general way. Anybody & most everybody does that on any topic & on anyone. Politics & religion are the most common.
Please provide specifics. Take at least two examples of what each has said & tell me where,chapter & verse(s) that each of them has been contrary to the Word. I challenge you here because you affect a lot of people. If I am incorrect and these two ministers have done what you proclaim, I will admit it & agree with you. After all I want to know, too. John

A: Dear John
In the PROSPERITY GOSPEL, faith is depicted as a powerful personal force that
recreates reality into exactly what the believer dreams it should be--all in the name of Jesus Christ. This blasphemous lie is no different than the "law of attraction" taught in the occult best selling book "The Secret" which claims that positive thinking or positive confession can create personal wealth, health, and happiness. In "Word of Faith" or "Name It and Claim It" preaching, believers are taught to use God for their own desired will and that the Holy Spirit supposedly cannot work until released through their words. Yet, this is the polar opposite of Biblical faith in which God uses the believer, who is enabled to do God's will thru the power of the Holy Spirit. God's ability to bless us is not contingent on our faith, in fact James clearly states that we don't even know what will happen tomorrow and points out that we are a mist that appears for a short time and then vanishes (Jam 4:13-16). This is a far cry from speaking our future into existence.

Satan's strategy has always been to appeal to fallen man's fleshly desires and egocentric pride. This prosperity gospel temptation borrows the name of Jesus Christ, but reduces Him to a false god who exists to do OUR bidding, and gives what we request. Much like the bidding of a person who calls on a magic-spirit-genie (djinn/jinni in Arabic) whose is believed to take human form when the container it lives in is rubbed, and spews forth its magical abilities to seduce through its powers from the demonic world from whence it came.

In prosperity teaching, this grave sin is turned upside down to appear noble and honorable because of the so-called good source it comes from because the ritual magic was performed in the name of Jesus Christ. But the pursuit of our own desires of success, wealth, worldly possessions, and sensual fulfillment are in stark contrast to Biblical humility, brokenness, submission, repentance, sacrifice, servant's heart, unselfishness, and purity of heart. The apostle Paul warned about carnal pursuits in 1 Timothy 6 which speaks of men of "corrupt mind" whose form of godliness was a means of gain and their lust for riches trapped them and led to their eventual destruction. God warns that the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil and that some, eager for money, have wandered from the faith. In Matthew, Jesus had no place to lay His head. In Ephesians, Paul said covetousness is idolatry and instructed us to avoid anyone who brought a message of immorality or covetousness (Eph 5:5-7). In Matthew, Jesus warns not to store up treasures on earth (6:19) and that man cannot serve both God and money (6:24).

A quick perusal of the current websites of both Joyce Meyer and Joel Osteen brings to light these false teachings. Joyce's current conference is entitled "Love Life", while the Bible teaches in John 12:25 that those who love their life shall lose it while those who hate life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. Clearly the title of Joyce Meyer's new hot-off-the-press book speaks for itself: "Change Your Words, Change Your LIfe: Understanding the Power of Every Word You Speak". It's no surprise that one of the featured guest speakers at her "Love Life" conference is Joel Osteen. Joel Osteen's currently advertised DVD series claims that your words determine your destiny and is entitled "The Power of Your Words". His brand new current book is entitled "I Declare, 31 Promises to Speak Over Your Life." The title alone, "I Declare" should be enough of an indication for a discerning Christian to avoid it. The advertisement for "I Declare" on his website states: "The words we speak set the course for our life. If you want to know what you're going to be like in five years, listen to the words you are saying about yourself today. Now you can take charge of your future with the help of Joel Osteen's latest book - "I Declare", filled with 31 written declarations-one for each day-you can declare, in faith, God's powerful Word over your life and watch your surroundings change in incredible ways. You will move forward to a promising future from the fruit of your words!" A stark contrast to these false teachings come from Peter who exhorts believers to prepare for a 'fiery trial' thru which believers are to 'rejoice' because they are 'partakers of Christ's sufferings' (1Pet 4:12-13). The Bible clearly teaches that we have ALL RICHES IN FULLNESS in Christ. There is no room for "faith in my faith" thinking, or self-help motivational preaching.



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